Radio Detox brings the artists &amp; builders in the Bitcoin + Nostr space directly to you.

In this conversation, Heather Larson and Mick from Geyser discuss the innovative crowdfunding platform Geyser Fund, its role in the Bitcoin community, and the challenges faced by creators in the current social media landscape. They explore the importance of community support, Geyser's All or Nothing funding model, and the need for artists to receive fair compensation for their work. The discussion highlights success stories from Geyser Fund and emphasizes the potential for crowdfunding to empower creators and bring their ideas to life.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Geyser Fund and Its Mission 
04:08 The Role of Nostr in Geyser Fund 
07:40 Challenges with Social Media Platforms 
11:44 Innovative Crowdfunding Mechanisms 
17:29 The Impact of Bitcoin on Creative Projects 
24:08 Success Stories and Future Directions 
33:57 Introduction to Anomal's Launch 
34:55 Exploring Geyser's Funding Mechanism 
36:29 Demonstrating the Contribution Process 
38:03 Understanding Refund Policies 
39:26 The Control of Funds in Crowdfunding 
41:34 The Importance of Supporting Artists 
42:27 Social Media Challenges for Bitcoin Content 
45:40 The Role of Independent Media in Music Promotion 
48:17 The All-or-Nothing Model in Music Funding 
51:15 The Need for Financial Support in Music Events 
53:40 Encouraging Creative Projects through Community Support

Radio Detox

Heather Larson

Fountain

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Empowering Creators: The Geyser Fund Journey Crowdfunding in the Bitcoin Era

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Mick

Frank Corva went from covering presidents to covering protocol. In this episode, the former White House correspondent shares his unexpected path into Bitcoin journalism, the burnout that comes with 24/7 news cycles, and why he sees Nostr as the next frontier for independent media. We dig into the Bitcoin circular economy, why onboarding matters more than ever, and the unique challenges women face in the space. Plus: how the DIY ethos of punk rock mirrors the decentralized spirit of Bitcoin.
Topics Covered
<ul>
<li>Frank's journey from White House correspondent to Bitcoin journalist</li>
<li>Burnout and the brutal pace of the news cycle</li>
<li>How the Trump administration opened doors for new media voices</li>
<li>Nostr as the next platform for independent creators</li>
<li>The Bitcoin circular economy and global empowerment</li>
<li>Onboarding: the bottleneck for Bitcoin and Nostr adoption</li>
<li>Diversity and women in Bitcoin development</li>
<li>Why privacy is the killer feature for decentralized social media</li>
<li>The DIY punk ethos meets Bitcoin culture</li>
<li>Building real community in a post-viral world</li>
</ul>
Key Takeaways
<ol>
<li>Journalism burnout is real - The 24/7 news cycle takes a toll; Bitcoin journalism offers a different pace</li>
<li>Nostr is an opportunity, not just a platform - For creators tired of algorithmic games and data harvesting</li>
<li>Onboarding is the bottleneck - Bitcoin and Nostr growth depends on making the first experience seamless</li>
<li>Diversity drives innovation - Inclusive development leads to better products for everyone</li>
<li>Privacy sells itself - Once people understand how their data is harvested, decentralized platforms make sense</li>
<li>Community beats virality - Smaller, engaged audiences are more valuable than chasing trends</li>
<li>The circular economy is already here - Bitcoin communities are transacting daily, not just speculating</li>
</ol>
Frank on X: <a href="https://x.com/frankcorva">https://x.com/frankcorva</a>
Frank on Substack: <a href="https://frankcorva.substack.com/">https://frankcorva.substack.com/</a>
Heather on Nostr: <a href="https://primal.net/heatherlarson">https://primal.net/heatherlarson</a>
Heather on X: <a href="https://x.com/WriterHeatherL">https://x.com/WriterHeatherL</a>
Heather on Substack: <a href="https://heatherlarson.substack.com/">https://heatherlarson.substack.com/</a>
Sign up for the RUNSTR District 5K: <a href="https://runsignup.com/Race/DC/Washington/Runstr5k">https://runsignup.com/Race/DC/Washington/Runstr5k</a>
Download RUNSTR: <a href="https://www.runstr.club/">https://www.runstr.club/</a>
Pubkey: <a href="https://www.pubkey.bar/">https://www.pubkey.bar/</a>
Soapbox: <a href="https://soapbox.pub/">https://soapbox.pub/</a>
Shakespeare AI: <a href="https://shakespeare.diy/">https://shakespeare.diy/</a>

Frank Corva on Punk Rock, Bitcoin, and the DIY Ethos

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Frank Corva

Personal Notes:
Just celebrating 3 years on Nostr with a solid rock playlist! Got some announcements buried in here too 😉 This show honors my rock radio roots, why we MAKE SONGS LONGER, and those of us who rock sober! 10% of the proceeds zapped will go to HRF! Because freedom tech should support freedom! 💪
Songs Played:
<ol>
<li>Self-Destruct - The Trusted</li>
<li>Crash and Burn - Iroh</li>
<li>Painted Red - Radon</li>
<li>As Above, So Below - Heartlight (French symphonic metal)</li>
<li>Killer - The 54 Plates ("like Pearl Jam but harder")</li>
<li>In Hell There is a Sea of Wasted Loads - Dire Descent</li>
<li>Trust in Life - Longy</li>
<li>Butterfly Chain - Longy</li>
<li>iMerica - Longy</li>
<li>Be Happy - Two Weeks in Nashville</li>
<li>Chariots - Big Awesome</li>
<li>Solution Revolution - Homeless Moses</li>
</ol>
"Make Songs Longer" Origin:
Events:
<ul>
<li>RUNSTR District 5K - March 15 in DC, with an after party I haven't officially announced yet. Sign up at <a href="https://runstr.club">https://runstr.club</a></li>
<li>RIGLY Block Party - Feb 12-13, 7pm ET to 1pm ET (18 hours). Direct buys only, team referral codes returning, cutoff before party starts. <a href="https://blockparty.rigly.io">https://blockparty.rigly.io</a></li>
</ul>
Shoutouts (at the end!):
<ul>
<li>Mark (OG listener)</li>
<li>Sam Means (Wavelake CEO, The Format) on Jimmy Kimmel 🔥</li>
</ul>
Artwork Created with <a href="https://shakespeare.diy">https://shakespeare.diy</a>
Also check out my other pod with Bro Derek: <a href="https://fountain.fm/show/soapboxsessions">https://fountain.fm/show/soapboxsessions</a>

DETOX ROCKS 🤘

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Big Announcement: RUNSTR District 5K
When: Sunday, March 15, 2026 
Where: Haines Point, Washington DC 
What: A charity race with a twist—your finish decides which cause wins. The charity with the most runners in the top 100 takes home $500.
Choose Your Charity:
<ul>
<li>Human Rights Foundation</li>
<li>ALS Network</li>
<li>Chimes International</li>
</ul>
Sign Up: <a href="https://runsignup.com/Race/DC/Washington/Runstr5k">https://runsignup.com/Race/DC/Washington/Runstr5k</a>
Playlist
<ol>
<li>Shrooms - Just Loud</li>
<li>All About G.O.L.D. - G.O.L.D.</li>
<li>Bangarang - Doomtree</li>
<li>World Issue (MadMunky Mashupmix) - MadMunky</li>
<li>That's How I Walk - Ambition</li>
<li>This is the Way - Man Like Kweks &amp; QW</li>
<li>Bad Day - Man Like Kweks</li>
<li>Shoulder Roll - Prophecy</li>
<li>$Southern $tate of Mind - Bizzy SlauGhter</li>
<li>Black Future Super Computer - Black Vulcanite</li>
<li>Risking Everything - Andy Princz</li>
<li>Call Me Whenever - JuiceStudio999</li>
</ol>
Find these tracks on Fountain and Wavlake—zap and boost the artists directly!
Featured Artist Spotlight
Prophecy - Saginaw, Michigan-born Hip Hop artist and producer. Has produced for Ransom and SyAri da Kid. Featured in Source Magazine as Unsigned Hype.
Black Vulcanite - Award-winning Namibian Hip Hop &amp; Poetry group. "Black Future Super Computer" is a Nostrich classic.
Boost Shoutouts
<ul>
<li>Mark - Thanks for the kind words about the Zap Cooking episode!</li>
<li>Sara Jade - Shoutout to a fellow Nostr OG from Culture Shock Phoenix 2024</li>
</ul>
Links
<ul>
<li>RUNSTR District 5K: <a href="https://runsignup.com/Race/DC/Washington/Runstr5k">https://runsignup.com/Race/DC/Washington/Runstr5k</a></li>
<li>District 5K on Satlantis: <a href="https://www.satlantis.io/events/1571/RUNSTR%3A-DISTRICT-5k">https://www.satlantis.io/events/1571/RUNSTR%3A-DISTRICT-5k</a></li>
<li>Running Bitcoin Challenge (ALS research): <a href="https://secure.alsnetwork.org/site/TR?fr_id=1690&amp;pg=entry">https://secure.alsnetwork.org/site/TR?fr_id=1690&amp;pg=entry</a></li>
<li>German Event: <a href="https://verein.einundzwanzig.space/association/project-support">https://verein.einundzwanzig.space/association/project-support</a></li>
</ul>
About Radio Detox
Your aid in detoxing from fiat, from broken money, from Big Tech mass centralized, mass surveillance systems. Hear from clear thinkers, innovators, and trailblazers sharing their best ideas. It's about leaving the problem behind to live in the solution—even if we have to create it ourselves.
About RUNSTR
Privacy-first, anonymous fitness tracker that helps you earn money for your favorite charity. Available on Android and iOS. Proudly supports the ALS Fund and Running Bitcoin.

Radio Detox: RUNSTR District 5K Playlist

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In this Radio Detox episode, I sit down with Seth, creator of Zap.Cooking and longtime Nostr builder, to trace his journey from the early Damus days in February 2023 to today’s vibrant, builder-led Nostr ecosystem. We explore why Nostr felt like the constructive side of the internet compared to legacy platforms, how Lightning and zaps transformed interactions, and why portable identity + Bitcoin make Nostr a uniquely powerful foundation for everyday apps. Seth shares the origin story of Zap.Cooking—from snagging the domain and posting a bounty for the first build to today’s curated, clutter-free recipe hub that prioritizes usable recipes over ad-stuffed backstories. We dig into community features like the new pyramid-style “Garden” relay, how submissions rise through recency and curation, and the culture of real conversations that’s driving Nostr forward. We also highlight Seth’s newer, vibe-coded projects: Grateful Day (a daily gratitude and affirmation app that posts to Nostr) and SoberKey (a decentralized sobriety support space modeled on 12-step principles). Along the way we talk about attracting non-technical users with simple, purpose-built apps, the growing IRL scene (Nostr Valley returns this October), and the momentum of value-for-value music via Fountain and Wavlake—where listeners can stream sats directly to artists. If you’re Nostr-curious, love food, or want to build community without platform capture, this conversation is a practical blueprint for what’s working—and what’s next.
Seth's sites: ‍ <a href="https://zap.cooking">https://zap.cooking</a> <a href="https://sobrkey.org">https://sobrkey.org</a> <a href="https://gratefulday.space">https://gratefulday.space</a> ⚡️ <a href="https://zapvertise.me">https://zapvertise.me</a> <a href="https://asknostr.io">https://asknostr.io</a>
Seth on Nostr: <a href="http://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqs2wguqtndxwfg3j8y8sm6d5k8hjlnfwavzxqf4fw5wjx7tqdpde8q4va8wx">primal.net/p/nprofile1qqs2wguqtndxwfg3j8y8sm6d5k8hjlnfwavzxqf4fw5wjx7tqdpde8q4va8wx</a>
Seth on X: <a href="https://x.com/zap_cooking">https://x.com/zap_cooking</a>
Seth's music: Best live V4V show: Ainsley Costello live in State College, PA for a spontaneous acoustic show. Fountain app for music (Wavlake, too!) Low Life by Mooky 1:01:36- 1:04:11 New Moon by Haleen 1:04:11 - 1:07:30 High Gravity LIVE by Joe Martin 1:07:30 - 1:11:19 Memories by Mooky 1:11:20 - 1:13:51 Celebrate by Haleen 1:13:51 - 1:17:47 Can't Promise You The World Live from Sloe Flower Studio by Joe Martin 1:17:47 - 1:21:49 Ainsley Costello's latest music video: <a href="https://youtu.be/yuNnXzeY4s8?si=NE-N9OqmNj4XAZLK">https://youtu.be/yuNnXzeY4s8?si=NE-N9OqmNj4XAZLK</a>

I had 19 ads. I counted them. Teen ads on one recipe page.

From Recipes to Relays: Seth’s Zap.Cooking Playbook for Building on Nostr

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SETH

Avi and I get deep into talking about podcasting 2.0, the kind of podcasting that is free and open. It takes Bitcoin payments peer-to-peer, which benefits indie music artists as well as podcasters who want an alternative to running ads and being stuck in Apple &amp; Spotify. (Many want to ditch Spotify on principle now because they’ve run ads for ICE. Radio Detox isn’t on Spotify and that is my choice). You don’t need to run ads in podcasting 2.0 because monetization is built in via the the technology. Avi has his own podcast, Plebchain Radio, that’s been using new tech from Fountain and I’ve been excited to finally talk to Avi about how that’s going. There’s a lot he has to say and, oddly, he held a little back, too. ;) In short, Avi is creatively on fire with PCR! We also discuss the recent NostrVille 3.0 event held in Nashville in October 2025 at Bitcoin Park, the evolution of Nostr, and how Avi &amp; QW’s Plebchain Radio came to be. Avi shares insights on the importance of community, the ideological alignment among Bitcoiners, and the transition to Podcasting 2.0 with Fountain. The conversation also explores the integration of indie music into podcasts, the challenges of advertising, and the freedom of independent podcasting. Overall, the discussion highlights the vibrant and evolving intersection of the Bitcoin and podcasting communities. Avi and I are sharing out thoughts about new things in podcasting, particularly focusing on Podcasting 2.0 and its implications for creative freedom. We explore the concept of 'home' through Avi's docu-series 'Finding Home,’ discussing personal identity and the journey of becoming expats from the fiat world into the Bitcoin ecosystem. We also touch on challenges and strategies for transitioning from fiat to Bitcoin. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Avi Burra and NostraVille 3.0 05:14 The Evolution of Plebchain Radio 10:33 Exploring Music Integration in Podcasts 25:25 The Freedom of Independent Podcasting 41:26 Exploring the Concept of Home 47:47 The Journey of Finding Home 54:54 Transitioning from Fiat to Bitcoin 01:03:55 The Importance of NNostr in the Bitcoin Ecosystem Learn more about Fountain for Podcassters: <a href="https://fountain.fm/podcasters">https://fountain.fm/podcasters</a>
Listen to Plebchain Radio on Fountain: <a href="https://fountain.fm/show/0N6GGdZuYNNG7ysagCg9">https://fountain.fm/show/0N6GGdZuYNNG7ysagCg9</a>
Silver Player by Polanski: <a href="https://fountain.fm/track/9vAOuRnKIsnI5WJYMWoe">https://fountain.fm/track/9vAOuRnKIsnI5WJYMWoe</a>
Finding Home on IndeeHub: <a href="https://indeehub.studio/film/finding-home">https://indeehub.studio/film/finding-home</a>
Nosfabrica: <a href="https://nosfabrica.com/">https://nosfabrica.com/</a>
Soapbox Sessions (Heather’s Nostr Podcast with Derek Ross): <a href="https://sessions.soapbox.pub/">https://sessions.soapbox.pub/</a>
RUNSTR (born of Nosfabrica 2025): <a href="https://www.runstr.club/">https://www.runstr.club/</a>
Follow Heather on Nostr: <a href="http://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsfln36agetx43hsw8mgkm4hce9j46zu94m8er59nyzhv74p7gg0esdgpa8a">primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsfln36agetx43hsw8mgkm4hce9j46zu94m8er59nyzhv74p7gg0esdgpa8a</a>
Follow Avi on Nostr: <a href="http://primal.net/avi">primal.net/avi</a> *Note that the video captions are done by AI and are imperfect. I’ve made every attempt I can to at least correct names as best as I can, but it’s not always possible due to time constraints and many, many softwrare burps.

Nostr, Bitcoin, and the Quest for Home with Avi Burra

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Avi Burra

In this episode of Radio Detox, I play a handpicked, non-countdown mix of my favorite independent tracks of 2025—no talking over ramps, no filler, just discovery. We kick off with Shredders and cruise through chilled textures from the Greensands, then spotlight the astonishing output of Tanzania’s Man Like Kweks and his Bitcoin Arusha education initiative. I share why Podcasting 2.0 matters—chapters, value-for-value zaps, and wallet-to-wallet support—and shout out artists thriving in the Valueverse, from Two Weeks in Nashville to Jawbone, Dirt Moon, and UK grinder Robbie P. I tell a few stories from the road, including meeting the irreverent storyteller Sarah Jade and watching her mobilize and uplift women artists, plus quick hits that brought my family together via La Tech House. We wrap with favorites from Ollie and FM Rodeo before settling into a long-form closer: Matthias McIntire’s 11.5-minute The Forest Reclaims the Land—a nod to proof-of-work artistry. Here’s to more Nostr, open-source tools, and longer songs in 2026. Featured artists and tracks mentioned include: Shredders (Florida Mandem, Shit Rules, Snerfs Up), the Greensands (Breathe), Man Like Kweks (Bitcoin Arusha), Two Weeks in Nashville (Underachiever), Jawbone (Horizons of Hope), Dirt Moon (Palynopsia), Sarah Jade (Hippies Raised a Cowgirl), Robbie P (Lessons of Regret), Longing (Bring It All Back Home to You Now), Dickie Tune Turret (La Tech House), Ollie (Lost Summer), FM Rodeo (Elephant Nightmare), and Matthias McIntire (The Forest Reclaims the Land).

I never needed AI lyrics to compete. Nah. I was born with this heat. Yeah.

There's no AI slop here. Love his music. Love him as a person, and he is one of the people that I know who managed to leave the…

You can't play Taylor Swift on a podcast. She's gonna come for you. But Shredders, they're not gonna come for you. Their music…

Bitcoin Beats and Indie Heat: Radio Detox’s 2025 Favorites

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bitcoinarusha@primal.net

In this episode of Radio Detox, I interview The Wild Hustle about the anonymous fitness app RUNSTR, its development journey, and its integration with Nostr and Bitcoin. We explore the importance of privacy in fitness tracking, the future of community engagement in health, and the role of AI in enhancing user experience. The conversation highlights the the importance of decentralization and user empowerment, emphasizing the need for a healthier ecosystem in the fitness industry. We also talk vibe coding, of course! In full disclosure, I am the Business Development Manager for RUNSTR. I’m Marketing Director at Soapbox Technology. Radio Detox is the podcast I started in July of 2024 as a way to share open source Bitcoin + Nostr technology with the world, specifically musicians and music fans. Since Nostr is an open ecosystem, how we use health data for RUNSTR can inspire more and further use cases for the protocol. It’s my goal for Radio Detox to inspire you to ‘detox’ off of the fiat system, which includes all centralized systems. Fitness is one such system. If your fitness is locked into Strava, Nike Run Club, or some other Big Tech™ app, try RUNSTR. It’s time to detox off of Big Fitness™ companies that farm your data while putting it at risk. While this break from the usual music fodder on Radio Detox is much needed to help your fitness detox, I didn’t forget about the music! The Wild Hustle shares his favorite artists on Wavlake at the end, so there’s a separate episode of Hustle’s Favorite RUNSTR Tracks! Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Runstr and Nostr 01:25 - Runstr Development 04:32 - Nostr in Health and Fitness Apps 07:59 - UX and Integration with Health Data 10:55 - AI Integration and Privacy Concerns 12:36 - Incentives and Rewards in Runstr 17:05 - Data Privacy and Security in Fitness Apps 20:28 - The Importance of Local Storage and User Control 27:31 - The Future of Runstr and Community Engagement 32:08 - Charity and Community Engagement through Runstr 37:09 - The Journey of Vibe Coding and Development 43:09 - Interoperability and the Future of Runstr 49:08 - Decentralization and Privacy Mentioned on the podcast: <a href="http://RUNSTR.club">RUNSTR.club</a> Runstr Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/RunstrClub">https://x.com/RunstrClub</a> Runstr Nostr: <a href="https://primal.net/runstr">https://primal.net/runstr</a> The Wild Hustle: <a href="https://primal.net/thewildhustle">https://primal.net/thewildhustle</a> Glok: <a href="https://glok.me/">https://glok.me/</a> Pleblab: <a href="https://www.pleblab.dev/">https://www.pleblab.dev/</a> Nosfabrica: <a href="https://nosfabrica.com/">https://nosfabrica.com/</a> OpenSats: <a href="https://opensats.org/">https://opensats.org/</a> Wavlake: <a href="https://wavlake.com/">https://wavlake.com/</a> ZapTrax: <a href="https://zaptrax.app/">https://zaptrax.app/</a> Club Orange app: <a href="https://web.cluborange.org/login">https://web.cluborange.org/login</a> Heather on X: <a href="https://x.com/WriterHeatherL">https://x.com/WriterHeatherL</a> Heather on Nostr: <a href="http://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsfln36agetx43hsw8mgkm4hce9j46zu94m8er59nyzhv74p7gg0esdgpa8a">primal.net/p/nprofile1qqsfln36agetx43hsw8mgkm4hce9j46zu94m8er59nyzhv74p7gg0esdgpa8a</a> Heather’s Yoga &amp; Music site: <a href="https://www.destinyarchitecture.net/">https://www.destinyarchitecture.net/</a> Nostr for Creators: <a href="https://nostr-creators.shakespeare.wtf/">https://nostr-creators.shakespeare.wtf/</a>
Music mentioned:
Man Like Kweks - New Day: <a href="https://fountain.fm/artist/pECT6kPihC4KSUhORa21">https://fountain.fm/artist/pECT6kPihC4KSUhORa21</a> Big Awesome from Demo ’16: <a href="https://wavlake.com/big-awesome">https://wavlake.com/big-awesome</a> Arson Car: Maybe in January, Uncertain: <a href="https://wavlake.com/arson-car">https://wavlake.com/arson-car</a> The Retrograde: <a href="https://wavlake.com/the-retrograde">https://wavlake.com/the-retrograde</a> Two Weeks in Nashville: <a href="https://wavlake.com/two-weeks-in-nashville">https://wavlake.com/two-weeks-in-nashville</a> Black Vulcanite: <a href="https://wavlake.com/black-vulcanite">https://wavlake.com/black-vulcanite</a> Bennyjeans: <a href="https://wavlake.com/bennyjeans">https://wavlake.com/bennyjeans</a>
Watch this episode on YouTube: <a href="https://youtu.be/boXr7HbaIlI">https://youtu.be/boXr7HbaIlI</a>

The Wild Hustle

Radio Detox Season 2, Episode 2: The RUNSTR Revolution for Anonymous Fitness Tracking

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nostr@btcpay.hrf.org

In this lively, on-the-ground episode from Antone’s in Austin and later Bitcoin Park in Nashville, I sit down with emerging R&amp;B/soul artist Kathryn for her first-ever podcast interview and a follow-up nearly a year later. When I say lively, I mean we're interrupted by none other than the Podfather himself, Adam Curry. Then we're interrupted by Ainsley's Momager, which also happened in Nashville (though I edit that one out). Ainsley Costello also makes an appearance in the Antone's/Austin interview! We talk about Kathryn's grind of breaking into music post-Belmont, her detour through commission sales and what it taught her about rejection, and how discovering value-for-value (V4V + Nostr + Bitcoin) lit a new path beyond the saturated DSP model. Kathryn shares the story behind her first <a href="http://Fountain.fm">Fountain.fm</a> release, “Socrates,” why she leans into R&amp;B despite Nashville roots, and how she’s using instant, direct splits to pay her producer—setting culture and precedent in a new artist-first ecosystem. We get candid about learning Bitcoin and Nostr from scratch, the stigma and marketing hurdles, and practical ways Gen Z artists can onboard without sacrificing their art. Along the way, you’ll hear about community wins, live-radio boosts, and Kathryn’s expanding music catalog—“Lemons,” “Body,” “Scoot,” “Canvas,” “Relevance,” and “What Comes Next”—plus concrete ideas for better tools, artist portals, and college outreach that could help indie music thrive in a freedom-tech future.
If you’re an artist or builder curious about direct fan support, instant splits, and keeping your creative control, this episode maps the messy, exciting middle—what’s working, what’s missing, and how you can jump in now to help shape what comes next.

Ainsley Costello

Kathryn

All of that's to say the best compliment that I got when somebody heard this song for the first time, they literally, they look…

I can sing. I can do my little jig on the piano, but 10,000,000,000 other people can do the same exact thing and probably do it…

What I've learned is never expect anything to be concrete.

Radio Detox Season 2, Episode 1 - Gen Z, Soul, and Sats: Kathryn on Building an Artist-First Future

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Chris Wenske played at HODLWEEN 2024 and is one of the KC Bitcoiners! He’s the Producer of Bitcoin Block Party KC, Bitcoin Party KC and Organizer of Jondo Media events.
He’s got events this weekend in Austin, Texas—Bitcoin Country!
Check it out: <a href="https://astralaurastudio.com/shop/p/bitcoin-party-kc-export-party">https://astralaurastudio.com/shop/p/bitcoin-party-kc-export-party</a>
There’s more info Chris gives out on the podcast that maybe he shouldn’t…
Did we mention Chris is a #V4V musician? I’ve played him before on Radio Detox (Season 1, episode 8 about HODLWEEN 2024). But this time around, we get to hear him tell the story behind his songs.
We have to talk about v4v, collaboration, the magic of Bitcoin events, building stuff, the Bitcoin circular economy, Air BTC, and much more.
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Chris Wenske: Exporting KC Bitcoiners to Austin

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